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From: mark@umcp-cs.UUCP
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Subject: Re: surve - (nf)
Message-ID: <4107@umcp-cs.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 28-Nov-83 23:20:47 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov 28 23:20:47 1983
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From a currently, going on five years C.S. faculty member who
has also worked for industry:
Job 2, without a doubt.

Change (b) (good students) and (d) (good research facilities), 
and I would choose job 1.

From: leff@smu.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.cse
Subject: surve - (nf)
Date: Sat, 26-Nov-83 04:54:30 EST

#N:smu:12200005:000:3071
smu!leff    Nov 25 16:47:00 1983

A survey:

This is survey is to evaluate how important people in education feel
money really is.

For those who are or planning to become computer science faculty members::

   Assume you just graduated and there are  two faculty jobs available:

   Job 1

   a) earns $40,000 a year
   b) has students who are not that intelligent and don't work hard
   c) computational facilities for instruction are outdated and are
      terribly overcrowded.  (e. g. there are keypunches and not enough
      of them.)
   d) has little or no computational facilities to support research
   e) is run by a dictatorial department head with little autonomy in
      teaching, etc.

   Job 2
   a) earns $15,000 a year
   b) great, intelligent, interesting hard working students
   c) excellent computational facilities for instructions
   d) every faculty member has all the research facilities they need.  Assume
      that it is your current favorite (UNIX on VAX, LISP Machine or whatever)
   e) department head is encouraging, allowing other faculty members a great
      deal of autonomy.  You are free to teach your courses the way you think
      they should be and your voice in issues concerning the whole department
      will be respected.

-- 
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