Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 11/4/83; site ihuxw.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!ihnp4!ihuxw!pector From: pector@ihuxw.UUCP (Scott W. Pector) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Civil War: Wheeler's Version Message-ID: <600@ihuxw.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Nov-83 20:00:50 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxw.600 Posted: Wed Nov 23 20:00:50 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Nov-83 04:57:49 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 48 T. C. Wheeler: I'm sorry. I couldn't resist answering your challenge. In your past few letters, you were bringing out some good points. Even in this last one you were doing so; however, you left the facts and traipsed into inaccuracy. I agree that economic considerations had their impact on the Civil War and Britain's role; however, these considerations were not (I repeat, NOT) the major cause. Cynicism is not a reason to change history. The anti-slavery movement was strong beginning in the 1830s and continued to gather strength through the 1840s and 1850s. The slave-holding states of the South were concerned that they maintain an equal balance with the North in Congress; otherwise, the North could enact legislation affecting the status of slavery in the South. Look back at the conflict over whether Texas should be admitted to the Union (the Northerners generally had misgivings about it since Texas would become a slave-holding state). This debate occurred in the 1840s, particularly around the time of the Mexican-American War. At this time, Texas had declared itself independent of Mexico and had set up its own government which was favorable to joining the U.S. Look back at the Compromise of 1850. Look back at the Kansas- Nebraska troubles in the 1850s. Look at the various abolitionist or anti-slavery political parties and coalitions that were formed in the 1840s and 1850s. These affected the stability of the Whig and Democratic parties. There are many more things I could cite. Economic and political considerations in an important sense derived from the fact that the South had a slavery-based economy and the North didn't. Many things that the North wanted, such as better roads, railroads, canals, etc., would not help the South at all; yet the South would have to help pay for these things and see the North benefit by them. This was true in the 1830s, 1840s, and the 1850s. By the end of the 1850s, I believe (and I suspect that many others do, too) that economic considerations had become secondary to the anti-slavery movement; that is, by that time, economic considerations were an additional reason (but not the major reason) for the North wanting to outlaw slavery throughout the U.S. Slavery was considered wrong. As long as the North had this attitude, the South would always be fighting a losing battle to stay in the Union, trying to maintain a balance in Congress. Once again, bear in mind that I agree that economic considerations were important (as usual). But this time, they became entangled with morality. It was morality that stirred the fervor of the Northern public. Secession and the attack on Fort Sumter increased that fervor. Economic considerations were not thought about by the average person. Scott Pector