Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site gatech.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!akgua!gatech!spaf From: spaf@gatech.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust - (nf) Message-ID: <2460@gatech.UUCP> Date: Sat, 26-Nov-83 16:04:47 EST Article-I.D.: gatech.2460 Posted: Sat Nov 26 16:04:47 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Nov-83 07:10:56 EST References: <4099@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: Georgia Tech School of ICS, Atlanta Lines: 56 My submission was not just about handguns, it was about the possession of any form of gun. I am very distressed at the mentality of individuals defending their "right" to own guns, or our rights to deploy more nuclear weapons, or to invade other countries, or drink while driving, or any number of other things classed as "personal freedoms." Invariably, the argument is something like: "Well, I don't want my rights abridged just because some psycho hasn't got the judgment or training or morals to behave responsibily." That argument is also used to justify national policies -- "We're defending democracy or freedom or human rights...." Who gave them (you) the imprimatur to pass such judgment? Just who is it that has labeled you as morally acceptable and free from the potential of reckless and dangerous use of your weapons? You can justify it only on the basis that "I'm responsible because I say so, and because others like me who have contributed to my training say so, and because no one has caught me doing anything to the contrary (yet)." Just because you have had training, or own only rifles, or label your weapons as "defensive only" or "collector's items only" does nothing to make me feel any safer or more at ease. I can walk into a sporting goods store in a nearby suburban mall and buy an Uzi machine gun for a little over $500. The 19 year old girl behind the counter very casually informed me that I didn't need a federal permit to convert it to fully automatic -- she could give me the addresses of places where I could mail-order kits to convert the gun from semi-automatic. I don't care how the hell much training you have or what kind of label you put on it -- I don't like the idea of private citizens owning machine guns. I asked her what kind of person buys these guns -- she says it is the responsible gun collector. I'm also very tired of people comparing guns to automobiles (I got a number of mail responses to my original article about how car accidents kill thousands of people, but we shouldn't ban cars). Automobiles are not intended for killing; guns are not intended for transportation. I know of no other (normal?) use for guns other than causing damage and death. I won't argue the fact that we need much stricter automobile regulations. However, I never heard of any armed conflict where one side was equipped with automobiles as weapons. I'm not going to convince anyone here of my position. I'm not really going to try. If you believe that you are so moral and responsible as to have the "right" to own a weapon, then there is nothing I can say which will make a difference. Neither can I convince anyone who believes that we should funnel so much of our energy and treasure into the continuing development of weapons of global destruction because "we must be able to defend ourselves and our way of life." I'm not entirely sure that any way of life which promotes such an attitude is worth defending. No, I can't convince. But I can fear. And pity. And pray. -- Off the Wall of Gene Spafford School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf.GATech @ CSNet-Relay uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,rlgvax,sb1,unmvax,ulysses,ut-sally}!gatech!spaf