Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cbscc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!cbosgd!cbscc!fran From: fran@cbscc.UUCP (Frank Webb) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: PCjr post-announcement predictions anyone? Message-ID: <360@cbscc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Nov-83 23:10:35 EST Article-I.D.: cbscc.360 Posted: Fri Nov 4 23:10:35 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Nov-83 23:52:02 EST References: <422@houca.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories , Columbus Lines: 44 I agree that IBM will probably not make noticeable impact on the game or low-priced home computer market with the pcjr. The price is too high for what you get, compared with the c64. I also don't feel that they are going to pull the rug out from under the apple 2e. They will compete, but each is going on the basis of the names they have already established. Apple still has a fantastic base of existing software, although there is some problem with the II+/IIe compatablility uncertainty. We need to see how much of the PCsr software the pcjr is going to be able to run on the disk system. If they can run most or all of the good stuff, then they have a good competitive product. I doubt whether you will see Apple come out with a cheaper machine than the 2e. That puts them into the vicious infighting with the gamesters. I see them pushing harder into the next higher layer, for small businesses and schools (colleges), with the Macintosh. That is a good solid market, and they can come up with a machine slightly higher in grade than the PCXT. Interesting to see where the PCjr will get its initial sales. Lets assume that you were a serious home or small business type, needed a computer, did not want to get a "toy" system, and wanted more business or analysis than games. Apple was one choice, IBM PC the second. A lot of folks who were going to go with the PC may now drop to the PCjr. Of course, a lot of people who wanted the PC for Lotus or Visi_ON were also looking at the PC/Clones, and they too may go to the PCjr rather than the clones. I agree that Apple has not been dealt a death blow. They should be able to survive the PCjr (unless the stripped machine suddenly sprouts a network connection which allows an "edunet" type of operation with one PC-XT feeding 12 PC jrs. in a classroom). I have looked at some of the public figures for Colecos financials. I wouldn't go short, yet, but their debt/equity and current ratios really look awful. Unless they can get some cash flow yesterday, I wouldn't give them a good chance to survive. Frank Webb The unruffled Sage CB 2C235 .