Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!akgua!psuvax!burdvax!presby!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!BRACKENRIDGE@USC-ISIB From: BRACKENRIDGE%USC-ISIB@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: How To Put Together A Cheap PC Message-ID: <13917@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Nov-83 17:11:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.13917 Posted: Tue Nov 22 17:11:00 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Nov-83 06:13:00 EST Lines: 26 From: Billy I'd like to add to your message that USC/ISI has been doing exactly as you have suggested on an institutional scale. The key to this is to get IBM or your friendly Computerland to ship an unassembled untested system. In order to do this legally someone on site must have taken the IBM service course. I have never met the man, but there is rumored to be such a graduate somewhere on campus so we qualify. We have found a 10% mortality rate on these untested systems. This is no problem as the systems are on warentee and we just pile all the bad components in one system and ship it back to IBM. This allows a slight discount on top of the standard educational discount. We then buy disk drives 50 at a time and can beat the discount houses here. The one thing we can't seem to beat is AST I/O+ cards. Buying them 15-25 at a time direct from AST still can't match the singles prices from the discount suppliers. Direct sales from IBM just haven't been worth the effort for orders less than 50 machines. After we have cleared the majority of the campus paperwork we call up a list of retailers and ask them to bid delivery time and price. We can usually get same week delivery and greater than 20% discount for up to 15 systems this way. We have never been able to get a system with no disk drives.