Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 11/4/83; site ihuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!ihuxm!gjphw From: gjphw@ihuxm.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: 12 noon/midnight Message-ID: <691@ihuxm.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Nov-83 13:57:49 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxm.691 Posted: Wed Nov 9 13:57:49 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Nov-83 01:48:34 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 39 This note is intended to introduce another perspective on the 12 noon/midnight melee. It attempts to place the determination of noon and midnight within a convention that is consistent with other numbering plans (e.g., years). In ordinary usage, the natural numbers are used for counting. When counting almost anything, we begin with one (1) and count through ten (10). With this convention, ten is the last number of the first decade. The first number of the second decade is eleven (11). Following this convention, there would not be any year designated as zero. The first year of any calendar (e.g., Julian) would begin with the year 1. Note that this mades the year 2000 the last year of the twentieth century (a year of the 1900's). The twenty-first century begins on Jan. 1, 2001. Viewing a clock as merely a mechanism for counting the passage of time, the first stroke of the new hour begins at the first moment that the number one can be applied. For example, 12:00 AM is the last member of the counts used to record the morning. Afternoon would begin at 12:01 PM. This technique would also apply to any arbitrary precision you might wish. If you are interested in time to the nearest second, 12:00:00 AM is the last second of the morning while 12:00:01 PM is the first second of the afternoon. A twenty-four hour clock has been popular with the military and the National Bureau of Standards for many years. Still, in this system, 24:00 is the last count of the day and 00:01 is the first minute of the next day. If you can recall how to count, there is no ambiguity as to whether or not to have lunch at 12:00 AM or 12:00 PM. Lunch is served at midday, which is the last moment of the morning, which is recorded as 12:00 AM. The next moment begins the counting for the afternoon with 12:01 PM. -- Patrick Wyant AT&T Bell Laboratories (Naperville, IL) *!ihuxm!gjphw