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Subject: whats natural
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Date: Mon, 21-Nov-83 15:41:57 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov 21 15:41:57 1983
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    I doubt that a gay person will be very much pleased by arguments that "its
    natural" because rats do it under stressful conditions.  Really, thats seems
    remarkably insulting.  Other comparisons to animals likewise.  The compar-
    isons also overlook a crucial difference: only a few animals species seem
    to treat sex as a "recreation".  Most DO-IT only at certain well defined
    times of the YEAR or occassionally a more frequent cycle.  Humans are rather
    lonely in the propert of doing-it all the time.  (I believe dolphins too.)
    More animal data: bands of monkeys near japan have been observed to use
    homo-sexual encouters to state dominance relationships among the males.
    This seems quite different from the majority of male human homo-sexual
    encounters, except perhaps for prisons.  Why not leave the animals alone
    unless we want to start a different sort of group discussion.

    Now, the entire question of whether it is natural or not is, again,
    a remarkably insulting one.  Unless one believes that all gays are an alien
    species, or have been brainwashed by litle green men (or litle green ladies)
    then by definition, the existence of homo-sexuality is the proff of its
    naturalness.  What must be lurking in these debates are questions like
    "don't they realize they need help? Its not naturalP."  Well, most of the
    people I know occasionally act oddly, and Ann Landers would certainly
    suggest they seek professional help.  None  of these people are (so far
    as I know) gay, so I guess the majority of the people in this country
    are un-naturral and need help.  For my money, I personaly would be quite
    distressed if my children turned out gay.  But I be distressed if they
    turned out Catholic too.  Or republicans.  Or mud-wrestlers. Or ....
    ----GaryFostel----