Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!grass From: grass@uiuccsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: It's Day After - (nf) Message-ID: <4146@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Nov-83 22:28:12 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.4146 Posted: Fri Nov 25 22:28:12 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Nov-83 04:15:51 EST Lines: 24 #R:ihnss:-180800:uiuccsb:10500013:000:1003 uiuccsb!grass Nov 25 14:40:00 1983 It seems to me that using "it's" as a possessive is a matter of confusing two paradigms, the possessive of nouns, and the possessive of pronouns. nouns: John's dog's dogs' etc., etc. pronouns: his her/ hers its "her" and "it" can occur alone, so there is a temptation to apply the noun paradigm to them. (giving possesive *"her's" and *"it's"). (example sentence: *"This book is her's"). **"hi" never occurs alone, so NO (or virtually no) native English speaker ever makes the mistake of writing **"hi's book" or **"This book is hi's") Usually if you point out to people that "its" is part of a set that includes "his", they are less tempted to make that error. Possessives are nasty... consider: This is Jane's toy. This is her toy. This toy is hers. This is the dog's toy. This is its toy. ??This toy is its. I suspect the last one (??) is ungrammatical. At that point, you have to supply the poor dog with a gender. I don't blame anyone for getting confused.