Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mprvaxa.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!ubc-visi!mprvaxa!tbray From: tbray@mprvaxa Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Reality - inductive and deductive Message-ID: <388@mprvaxa.UUCP> Date: Sun, 20-Nov-83 16:45:25 EST Article-I.D.: mprvaxa.388 Posted: Sun Nov 20 16:45:25 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Nov-83 03:06:30 EST References: <373@mprvaxa.UUCP>, <195@wu1.UUCP> Organization: Microtel Pacific Research, Burnaby BC Lines: 27 x <-- netnews insecticide Mr. Fritz proposes the following (Epminides' paradox) as an example of deduction leading to new knowledge: -------- All statements are either true or false ==> "This statement is false" is either true or false. One may reasonably conclude that some statements are not true and not false under the definitions of true and false used. -------- The first assertion is an example of deductive reasoning, the process of "reasonable conclusion" in the second is the worst kind of level- mixing and has nothing to do with deduction. Hofstadter has beaten this issue to death in GEB. Mr. Fritz also wonders in what fashion humans really do reason. This of course is an issue at the very crux of AI, and he can snap up an easy Ph. D. if he can settle it convincingly. My personal conviction is that human reasoning is overwhelmingly inductive and that the human mind is little more than a superb pattern-matching apparatus with some deductive ability on the side. Oops. Shouldnta said that. Better duck. ...decvax!microsoft!ubc-vision!mprvaxa!tbray