Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site denelcor.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!denelcor!neal From: neal@denelcor.UUCP (Neal Weidenhofer) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: A question on photon decay Message-ID: <195@denelcor.UUCP> Date: Sun, 6-Nov-83 19:23:30 EST Article-I.D.: denelcor.195 Posted: Sun Nov 6 19:23:30 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 8-Nov-83 07:43:02 EST Organization: Denelcor, Aurora, CO Lines: 49 ************************************************************************** I have a couple of items that have been bothering me for some time about what's happening in physics lately. If anyone is both willing and able to explain to me what I'm missing, I'd be very grateful. First some background (as I understand it): 1. One of the earliest verifications of Special Relativity was in observing that certain particles produced by cosmic rays entering our atmosphere were reaching the ground in larger numbers than predicted by classical physics. The explanation was that, because these particles are traveling at a significant fraction of c, their "internal clocks" are running slower than our clocks and that therefore, any given particle has a larger probability of reaching the ground before it decays because less time has passed for the particle than for us. 2. Many of the recent experiments in particle physics have involved colliding some particle and it's anti-particle (e.g., a proton and an anti-proton) which produces a *very* high energy photon (or more than one??) which, in turn, decays to produce (hopefully) the particles that the experimenter wishes to observe. My questions: 1. How does the photon in (2) "have time" to decay? Since according to S.R., it's "internal clock" has stopped completely--at least for our observations, it must be decaying in zero time (as measured on its "internal clock") while it decays in a fixed finite time (as measured by our clocks). 2. Is this related to the fact(?) that, in at least some of these experiments, the photon is a "virtual" photon (i.e., so short lived that it's not required to conserve momentum)? 3. Now that physicists are debating the possibility that neutrinos have non-zero rest mass, has anyone considered the question that photons might also? I realize that would negate many of the arguments Einstein used to derive S.R. and G.R., but they're both well enough verified by now to stand without their original derivations (like taking down the scaffolding when the building is finished.) Thanks in advance for taking the time to point out my mistakes. Regards, Neal Weidenhofer Denelcor, Inc. !denelcor!neal