Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!odom From: odom@uiucuxc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Notes on Evacuation Day - (nf) Message-ID: <3754@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Nov-83 20:41:08 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3754 Posted: Wed Nov 9 20:41:08 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Nov-83 22:13:27 EST Lines: 48 #R:houxk:-11900:uiucuxc:21200022:000:1961 uiucuxc!odom Nov 9 14:34:00 1983 I think the slurs on the Irish began more around the last potato famine than the Revolutionary War. There was at the time of the Revolution, a strong political/ cultural majority from Britain and that may have begun the bigotry rampant during the 19th century. By the time of the last potato famine there were boatloads of starving people landing here and grabbing jobs from the lower-class anglos. This would naturally produce a strong bias against the intruders and the widespread ignorance on Irish history would only encourage the belief. At the time of the Revolutionary War, Ireland was well-known for her "wild geese". Men reknown for their fighting skills who left Ireland (for various reasons) to fight all over the world. They are mentioned in some of Russia's history. Perhaps this accounts for the large scale participation by the Irish in the Revolution. The Irish have never really recovered from the descriptions of them sent to Emperor Claudius (yellow journalism). They have always been considered by the British as half-tamed savages barely one step above the Welsh and several below the Scots and the only thing that improved the Scots in English eyes was that Britain conquered them and therefore set about "civilizing" them. The Welsh have been slowly annexed, though never tamed. But the Irish totally escape British understanding. A war-like people who could never (well, only once) unite long enough to fight off any intruder. The British view is pretty understandable: if they viewed the Irish as equals how could they ever justify the brutal treatment of her people, her economy, and her land? Any American prejudice, while it might stem from our British heritage, is certainly misplaced and stupid. I know how Britain viewed the Sinn Fein Easter Uprising, but does anyone know what the American public opinion was?? susan odom p.s. just so you understand the bias, i'm irish-welsh.