Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pur-ee.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!isrnix!tim From: tim@isrnix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: anti-nuke questions - (nf) Message-ID: <1192@pur-ee.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Dec-83 03:28:12 EST Article-I.D.: pur-ee.1192 Posted: Thu Dec 1 03:28:12 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Dec-83 00:00:08 EST Sender: notes@pur-ee.UUCP Organization: Electrical Engineering Department , Purdue University Lines: 77 #R:hou5a:-43700:isrnix:11700009:000:4076 isrnix!tim Nov 30 23:42:00 1983 Once again when factual arguments are impotent in the face of the evidence we find proponents of Nuclear armaments engaging in red-baiting again. It is no doubt true that the Soviet Union has a propaganda budget, just as the U.S. has- in my town in Bloomington just a month or so ago an Air Force colonel came as part of a nationwide "information" campaign on the part of the Pentagon to try to justify the latest escalation of the arms race. The issue of the extinction of homo sapiens is not one which is only the concern of the Soviet Union--people on BOTH sides are beginning to question the actions of their governments in threatening the extinction of the human race. Are the supporters of the Peace Movement in Eastern Europe also funded by the KGB? If the Peace Movement is solely funded by the KGB then how does one explain the following article in the New York Times?: >MARCHERS IN RUMANIA ASSAIL ARMS PLANS OF EAST AND WEST > >Bucharest,Rumania, Nov. 12 (AP)-About 30,000 people joined a Government- >sponsored march today against missile deployment in Europe by both >East and West. The Soviet Union has reportedly been pressing Rumania >to accept deployment of Soviet missiles if Soviet-American arms talks >fail and new missiles are deployed in Western Europe. or how about this article from the New York Times?: >SOME CZECHS QUESTION NEED FOR SOVIET MISSILE RESPONSE > >Prague, Nov. 5(AP)-Some Czechoslovaks are questioning the wisdom >of the deployment of Soviet medium-range missiles in their >country, the Communist Party newspaper Rude Pravo said today. >Public airing of doubts about policy formulated in Moscow is rare >in Czechoslovakia. Rude Pravo said it had received letters since >the Soviet Union said last month that it would respond to the >deployment of United States Pershing 2 and cruise missiles in >Western Europe by stationing missiles in Czechoslovakia and East >Germany. Most letters "show a resolve to do all for the defense of >peace," said Rude Pravo. "but there are also some from which one >can sense doubts whether the recently announced steps for the >strengthening of defense 'are necessary at this stage.'" >Other letters ask "whether we should not have waited until the >Pershings are stationed." >"What will the defenders of peace in the West say to this?" and >"Who really started all this?" said Rude Pravo. Lest one thinks these reports (which are actually from the Associated Press anyway) are merely products of the "liberal" New York Times, recent issues of the conservative US News and World Report have reported the same phenomenon- the growing peace sentiments in Eastern Europe in East Germany and Czechoslovakia. In East Germany peace groups have been meeting in Churches to question the present arms race and the Soviet desire to station retaliatory missiles in East Germany in response to US deployment of Pershings. And why not? If Europe is the first target of a nuclear exchange BOTH East and West Europe will be fried first. It is about time that the people on both sides of the brink of armageddon forced their leaders to stop playing nuclear blackmail with the life of the species and our whole planet for the sake of their power politics games. Of course one can be sure that Peace supporters in the East are also accused of being "unpatriotic" or puppets of the West just as Peace supporters are here. But the facts are that everybody from East or West has an interest in preserving our species. Another common tactic is to accuse Peace supporters of only opposing "our" missiles, or advocating only our own disarmament. The fact that the Peace marchers in Europe have called for the removal of Soviet SS-20's as well as a halt to US cruise missiles is generally ignored. When the Social Democrats in Germany approved a resolution opposing the deployment of cruise missiles in Germany, they also called for the halt of any more deployment of SS-20's. Avoiding nuclear war is as important for us as for them! tim sevener Indiana University, Bloomington pur-ee!iuvax!isrnix!tim