Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 10/6/83; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxr!lew From: lew@ihuxr.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: ... neither value nor meaning Message-ID: <751@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Nov-83 14:21:07 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxr.751 Posted: Fri Nov 4 14:21:07 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Nov-83 21:37:02 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 23 Jeff Sargent asks: "Is it not an insult to tell people that they are basically the same as primordial ooze, that they exist only by chance, and that therefore they have neither value nor meaning?" This is a non sequitur. That meaning and value originate with our humanity in no way denies their validity. The delight I find in my children is a simple fact of my existence, and requires no theology for its support. Nor is it denigrated by the observation that this feeling came about in the natural course of things. I find no insult at all in being counted part of nature. On the contrary, I find it incredible that some, such as Jeff, find it necessary to believe that all of nature is secondary to human existence, else be compelled to suicide. This same sentiment was expressed on camera by a man from Livermore, California who was justifying his support for creationism. (This was in the PBS show "creationism in the classroom", or whatever.) What's the matter with you guys? Lighten up! Life is for living! Dig those millions of galaxies, man! Dig that primordial ooze! Dig yourself! A natural man -- Lew Mammel, Jr. ihuxr!lew