Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hp-pcd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcla!ajs From: ajs@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: pesticide evolution - (nf) Message-ID: <2347@hp-pcd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 6-Nov-83 03:39:25 EST Article-I.D.: hp-pcd.2347 Posted: Sun Nov 6 03:39:25 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 8-Nov-83 08:17:24 EST Sender: notes_gateway@hp-pcd.UUCP Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO Lines: 40 #R:drux3:-85700:hpfcla:21300001:000:1979 hpfcla!ajs Nov 4 16:05:00 1983 Sigh... The theory of evolution requires HYPOTHESIS, not FAITH. In this case the latest (best) hypothesis is that evolution is punctuated, so the odds of finding "smooth-slope" transition fossils are very small. As Richard Dawkins says, "The universe is populated by stable things." That goes for species, too. If you look around, you can find lots of "isolated" species as well as "similar" species. Either way, it is precisely their (stable) differences that lets us recognize them as different species. I see creationists creating a non-existent problem out of thin air: If a species exists, it can't be transitional, since it is separate (by definition). So, they then ask, where are the transitional fossils? They are guilty of splitting hairs. You can find a nice series of transitional horse fossils (each a separate species) from small mammals to current forms. You can also find a very nice series from apelike creatures to modern man, if you don't ignore the evidence, or insist on too fine a resolution. Dramatic, successful mutations -- those which have survival value and fork new, distinguishable species -- are probably quite rare, and when they do appear, they obviously spread lightning-fast compared to geologic time. The average nature of the world is extreme stability, with distinguishable species that change little over human times. --> FLAME ON: Creationists seem to know what they WANT and will rationalize to any lengths to support their world-view. Scientists, however, tend to generalize from the observable evidence, even if the conclusions are painful (e.g., humans are very small drops of space and time in a vast cosmos). In my opinion, creationists are blind to their own wishful thinking and to the true scope of time and space. Always willing to help my memes in the battle for survival, Alan Silverstein (meme: see "The Mind's I", article by Dawkins)