Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bbncca!sdyer From: sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: morals debate Message-ID: <361@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Wed, 30-Nov-83 23:01:21 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.361 Posted: Wed Nov 30 23:01:21 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Dec-83 23:07:20 EST References: <635@ssc-vax.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 20 My response to David Hawley was precisely in reaction against the kind of arguments which try to link logical deduction with moral standards and behavior. It just happened that his arguments, presumably deduced ex nihilo, coincided with the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, and so my response was based on its more established tenets. I agree with your main point, the Church as a community of believers, and not as some official organization. (But the Roman Catholic Church affirmed this, too, at its Second Vatican Council.) I merely wished to put to rest the argument "Homosexuality is bad for the following reasons, blah, blah blah, blah blah blah, QED." It is as ethereal an exercise as the medieval discussion of angels and pins, except that the victims of its analysis are real corporeal beings. Yes, perhaps it's more like the old question of whether Jews or women or blacks have souls. It serves no purpose except to further cement the tenacious preconceptions of its proponents. -- /Steve Dyer decvax!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca