Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site masscomp.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!trb From: trb@masscomp.UUCP (Andy Tannenbaum) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Kashrut and rel. obsolescence - (nf) Message-ID: <143@masscomp.UUCP> Date: Wed, 30-Nov-83 11:44:45 EST Article-I.D.: masscomp.143 Posted: Wed Nov 30 11:44:45 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Dec-83 23:08:30 EST References: <4218@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: MASSCOMP, Littleton, MA Lines: 38 In response to Gil Moskowitz (29 Nov), Joe Ahern states: I think there is an obvious correlation between the kosher laws and personal health. and he goes on to give a perfectly reasonable sounding explanation concerning dietary causes of human ill health. Makes pretty good sense, what? Problem here is that just because a solution makes pretty good sense, and just because there's an obvious correlation, doesn't in the least mean that the kosher laws are based on personal health practices. Consider: Take a nice healthy piece of 8x11 paper. For instance, rip ranlib(1) out of your UNIX manual, it should be built into ar anyway. Now crumple it up in your fist, tight. Now sit the wad on a table. Watch it strain and crinkle to rebound, you'd almost think that it was alive. Set it afire. Watch it writhe and blacken in apparent agony. Is the clump of paper alive? There is an apparent correlation. Scientists have called lesser evidence a "sign of life." My point here is that the kosher laws are Jewish laws, just the same way that auto speed limits are municipal (or whatever) laws. They are not based on Truth, they are simply there. They live within their system. The system of municipal law says that there is a set process for changing the speeding laws. Jewish law says that the Jewish laws are not based on practical considerations; you follow them because you are a Jew and because Jews follow the Jewish laws. This blathering about practical considerations has no basis in Jewish law and I defy anyone to show me evidence to the contrary. Sorry to get so abrupt, but it's a bit tiresome to see people making up Jewish law. Note that there are rabbis around who stretch the law for their own (or their assimilated congregants') purposes, I call it the "Rabbi Siegal makes it Legal" school of Judaism, and that doesn't count as evidence. Andy Tannenbaum Masscomp Inc Westford MA (617) 692-6200 x274