Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.social Subject: finances and marriage -- pulled over from net.singles Message-ID: <1433@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Nov-83 04:12:40 EST Article-I.D.: utcsstat.1433 Posted: Tue Nov 15 04:12:40 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Nov-83 04:53:10 EST Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 59 I may be getting a silly impression here, but I think that the "shared finances" people in net.singles are working by sympathetic magic, rather than cause-and-effect. It is an oversimplification to say that sympathetic magic works by effect-and-cause, but it gets the point across. Now, far be it from me to tell people to STOP doing this, but the arguments that they are using could be construed to be the 'cause and effect' ones you generally get from scientific sources, which they are not. The proposed train of thought goes like this: 1. So and so had separate accounts. 2. So and so's marriage didn't last. QED Generally there is talk about "complete partnership" and "total sharing" necessary to make a marriage work. i don't understand that either (after 25 years my parents still have separate bank accounts) but I can see what this is going to lead to. People are going to get shared accounts, even if they have serious qualms about them. This is sympathetic magic. My marriage may not have this wonderful "total sharing" at its foundation, but I am going to emulate these RESULTS of this "total sharing" (such as the shared bank accounts) and fake it out. This may be silly folks. Let us assume for a minute something that I do not believe -- that there is only one sort of successful relationship and this is the "total sharing" one. Well, if you do not have that total sharing attitude (evidenced by your desire for separate bank accounts) then your marriage is going to fail. All you have done is made it more difficult for you to settle when this inevitable breakdown occurs, because your combined bank account will not make you a 'total sharing' sort of person all by itself. It will, however, give you an endless supply of arguments. Now, suppose that you are not a total sharing sort of person, but you still want to get married. Presumably you want your marriage to last. This means that you are trying to do something despite the claims of the firm advocates of the "total sharing" world veiw that your relationship is doomed. If it is any comfort, you are not alone. There are also couples making a sucess of it who do not have the much-lauded "communication skills", though, since generally communication is not what gives them thrills it is not surprising that you don't hear them screaming their successes over the rooftops. If you are one of these people then you are going to have to come up with an arrangement that you can live with. NOT THAT YOUR NEIGHBOURS CAN LIVE WITH. If you do not already believe that 'total sharing' is the only way for a relationship to work, then they are going to look upon you as weird and perverse anyway, so don't let it get to you. And DONT think that you have to emulate the effects of what they consider "good grounds for a successful marriage", because the effects without the causes may be at best arbitrary and at the worst, dishonest. Laura Creighton utzoo!utcsstat!laura