Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!dietz%usc-cse%USC-ECL@SRI-NIC From: dietz%usc-cse%USC-ECL%SRI-NIC@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Space Solar Power Message-ID: <13285@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Nov-83 21:54:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.13285 Posted: Wed Nov 2 21:54:00 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Nov-83 20:13:52 EST Lines: 61 In reply to ZBEN's "cogent" argument against SPS: [ZBEN] The most cogent argument I have heard against the satellite solar power idea is the resultant increase in heat pollution. Thats right. Those big solar panels out there are tantamount to increasing the absorption of solar power by the earth. I thought I addressed this issue in one of my messages. Space solar power actually has comparatively low thermal pollution, compared to other energy sources. The reason is quite simple: the thermodynamically limited part of the light-to-electricity conversion process is done in orbit. The SPS radiates its waste heat INTO SPACE, not into a cooling tower (or whatever) on earth. The power transmission process (microwaves & power lines) dissipates into the biosphere as heat maybe 10-15% of the energy delivered to the user. In contrast, ground based thermal electrical generators (fossil fuel, fission, fusion, thermal solar, geothermal) waste at least three fifths of the produced energy as heat (150% of the delivered electrical power). Ground based solar is also a thermal polluter. Deserts are fairly reflective (~35% of the energy is reflected), so much of the sunlight hitting them goes right back into space. A power plant, be it a power-tower or a solar cell array, will decrease this figure to about 5%. The result is that ground based solar puts about 110% of the delivered power into useless waste heat (over and above what the desert would have absorbed). Hardly a "second order" effect! The only electricity sources I can think of that produce less thermal pollution than SPS are wind and hydroelectric -- but I wouldn't be suprised to find that if you extracted enough energy from the wind temperature differences between locations on the Earth's surface would increase. In any case wind and hydro can't supply more than a small fraction of the energy we'll need. If you're still worried about thermal effects of SPS, you can make the rectenna reflective (polished sheet aluminum, say). The intensity of the microwave beam is only 1/2 that of sunlight (at the center; at the edges it's much less), so this looks feasible. Beyond that, you can move manufacturing into orbit (assuming delivering the goods to earth doesn't dissipate too much energy in the atmosphere). After that, you can move consumption into orbit -- space colonies! [ZBEN] I think the solar satellites are yet another government give-away to the high-tech aerospace industries. We have plenty of desert right here on earth, with the advantage of breathable air for the repairmen. But ground based solar can't supply more than about 5% of the nation's electricity needs. Beyond that, you need to solve the problem of large scale electrical energy storage -- a very hard problem. And it isn't completely obvious that ground based solar is cheaper than space based. A large concentrator mirror could conceivably be easier to build, aim and maintain in orbit. It could certainly be far less massive than ground based heliostat arrays. Paul Dietz (dietz@usc-ecla)