Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!jbray@bbn-unix From: jbray%bbn-unix@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: ENOUGH ALREADY Message-ID: <13672@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Nov-83 12:39:56 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.13672 Posted: Tue Nov 15 12:39:56 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Nov-83 00:09:11 EST Lines: 22 From: James Bray I for one am quite interested in any discussion relating to Berkeley vs. Bell, whither Berkeley and wither Bell, &c, and I feel confident a lot of other people are too. It seems to be the most proper sort of thing to discuss on this list, certainly more interesting to me than the latest Versatec Driver, the magic of TROFF, the Vax console (I don't have a Vax). Not that these things shouldn't be discussed, but rather that the general question of BSD vs. BTL is at least as appropriate. Questions: anyone know if Bell is ever going to pick up all Berkeley stuff? The filesystem? Sockets? Virtual Memory (not to be confused with Virtual Reality)? If so, any idea when? Anyone know what will be in sys[6-?]? 4.[3-?]? Rumors on DEC's 4.2+ or other kernels? Anyone know if the 4.2 contract clause that everyone objects to is in the licenses that DEC and Sun sell, or if they swallow it themselves? Guesses as to how far The Ex-Phone Company is willing to go in terms of making things binary-only, restricting use of the name Unix, and other things that serve to remind one that there may be juicier monopolies out there than even telephones? General scurrilous and unfounded rumors? More about "U.S Jets shoot down alien Spacecraft"? I'm just dying to know... --Jim Bray UUCP decvax!bbncca!jbray ARPA jbray@bbncca