Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!mit-eddie!mit-vax!eagle!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!PEREIRA@SRI-AI.ARPA From: PEREIRA@SRI-AI.ARPA Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Mental states of machines Message-ID: <14369@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-Dec-83 03:42:50 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.14369 Posted: Sat Dec 3 03:42:50 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 9-Dec-83 06:40:36 EST Lines: 28 Steven Gutfreund's criticism of John McCarthy is unjustified. I haven't read the article in "Psychology Today", but I am familiar with the notion put forward by JMC and condemned by SG. The question can be put in simple terms: is it useful to attribute mental states and attitudes to machines? The answer is that our terms for mental states and attitudes ("believe", "desire", "expect", etc...) represent a classification of possible relationships between world states and the internal (inacessible) states of designated individuals. Now, for simple individuals and worlds, for example small finite automata, it is possible to classify the world-individual relationships with simple and tractable predicates. For more complicated systems, however, the language of mental states is likely to become essential, because the classifications it provides may well be computationally tractable in ways that other classifications are not. Remember that individuals of any "intelligence" must have states that encode classifications of their own states and those of other individuals. Computational representations of the language of mental states seem to be the only means we have to construct machines with such rich sets of states that can operate in "rational" ways with respect to the world and other individuals. SG's comment is analogous to the following criticism of our use of the terms like "execution", "wait" or "active" when talking about the states of computers: "it is wrong to use such terms when we all know that what is down there is just a finite state machine, which we understand so well mathematically." Fernando Pereira