Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site floyd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!gjw From: gjw@floyd.UUCP (Greg Wroclawski) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re:280Z Tires Message-ID: <2025@floyd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Dec-83 09:18:56 EST Article-I.D.: floyd.2025 Posted: Tue Dec 6 09:18:56 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 9-Dec-83 01:21:11 EST Organization: Bell Labs Whippany NJ Lines: 25 I have a 1980 RX-7 with the same problem you appear to be having. The weight ditribution is almost the same 51%/49% front rear and both have about the same power to weight ratios. The previous owner had put 205/60-13 tires in place of the original 185/70-13's. The car's wet weather traction was poor and in the snow even worse. The rear tires were very easy to break loose in the rain. As soon as the tires got reasonably worn I changed back to 185/70-13's (Bridgestone 207's in this case) and wet weather traction was vastly better. An important point to remember is that a tires wet traction comes from the fact that the water between the tire and the road gets channeled into the treads and the rubber is allowed to contact the road. When this can no longer happen the tire is said to be hydroplaning. This channeling of water is helped by increasing the weight per unit area and by tread depth and pattern. Therefore, all other factors remaining the same increasing the tire width decreases the weight per unit area on a given car and decreases wet traction. Also as a tire wears and its treads get shallower the tire's wet weather traction decreases although dry weather traction and handling gets better. A similar situation exists in the snow where you want the tire to dig in and get a good bite. So snow tires are designed with large chunky treads and the more weight on the driven wheels the better. Dry weather traction (lateral acceleration also) and transient response are affected by a totally different set of parameters and in general wider tires will improve traction in these conditions. So one must pick tires which are the best compromise between the two extremes depending on one's location and driving habits.