Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!ntt From: ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) Newsgroups: net.cog-eng Subject: Re: How do you tell users to press RETURN every so often? Message-ID: <539@dciem.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Dec-83 18:09:51 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.539 Posted: Tue Dec 6 18:09:51 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Dec-83 19:33:46 EST References: <2679@utcsrgv.UUCP> <607@minn-ua.UUCP> <5532@mcvax.UUCP>, <979@mit-eddie.UUCP> Organization: NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Canada Lines: 19 What wonders me in this discussion (though I appreciate the replies that suggest to read everything is CBREAK mode), is that no one came up with the answer `suggest a TYPEWRITER as model'. Surely this kind of apparatus and its use are known to most people, and surely on a typewriter you have to watch out for the end of the line! Another objection here is that RETURN does not mean the same thing on a typewriter as on a terminal, or at least it is not used the same way. For one thing, it is also a continuation mark -- you use it when you're typing a paragraph that does not fit on one line. For another thing, if you're using the typewriter to fill out a printed form, you may well find yourself directly positioning the "cursor" by grabbing the carriage and moving it, which may be a much easier operation since you can move in two dimensions. And answering a prompt is somewhat analogous to filling out a form. This point about RETURN not meaning the same thing, and other false analogies, were covered in a paper presented at the Human Factors in Computer Systems conference (NBS and ACM SIGCHI, I believe) in March 1982, but I can't remember the author(s) to give proper credit.