Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!eich From: eich@uiucdcs.UUCP (eich ) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: What ever happened to Human Rights - (nf) Message-ID: <4311@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-Dec-83 04:26:04 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.4311 Posted: Sat Dec 3 04:26:04 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Dec-83 06:39:38 EST Lines: 68 #R:ihuxp:-52400:uiucdcs:36200059:000:3253 uiucdcs!eich Dec 3 03:02:00 1983 >/***** uiuccsb:net.flame / ssc-vax!jobe / 6:14 pm Dec 2, 1983 */ >It's curious how whenever someone points out the FACT of racism in American >society someone else (are you listening, eich???) My ears ache already! (but at least you're not whining) >Minimum wage laws? Are you suggesting that blacks should only be paid less >than the current minimum wage??? Of course not, I just know you wouldn't >say such a thing (at least not on this fuckin' Net). But, if you're not >saying that, I don't see what else you could possibly be saying. The minimum wage law prices unskilled labor out of the market. Due to ***!!!>>>RACISM<<You are for non-egalitarianism- you are for a meritocracy, right? That means >that the advantages that have been established for you and all other white males Come off it, you ass! College educated black males under 30 marginally out-earn college educated white males -- see T. Sowell (and don't tell me Tom Sowell is a Tom [no pun], because he's not winning friends white or black by his scholarship). The most upwardly mobile group in Post-war America are the Black West Indians. WASPS are way down on the mobility list, and sinking further. >As far as the tribes of Africa fighting each other, so fucking what?? >That DOES NOT FUCKING EXCUSE THE ATROCITIES OF THE RACIST REGIME OF >SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!! Can you read? (uh, oh!) Did I say that EXCUSED anything??? NO. I sayed you've got racial tunnel-vision. >So, you asshole, you've got to do better than that. There is no excuse. >You are an aidor and abettor (if you don't like my spelling, fuck you on that I've got to do better than what? Than try to argue with a lunatic? Maybe I should respond in kind, but net.flame might become net.war. I don't care about your spelling, your "aidor/abettor" line is fanatical. With that kind of view it's a wonder you aren't waging guerilla war right now. >too!) of this racist society, and your feeble attempt to make it seem like >it's black America's own fault that it's in the shape it's in sucks. Bad. Where the HELL did I say it's black America's own fault that it's in the shape it's in. I guess you can't read. >Oh, by the way, to define "society"-- aaah, shit, you mealy mouthed nit-picker- >You know damned well I meant that in the dominant culture of the United States >it is a disadvantage IN AND OF ITSELF to be a member of a minority ethnic group >and that goes double for blacks. Nit-picking. Great. You couldn't be bothered from your irresponsible ravings. And I STILL haven't disagreed that it's a disadvantage to belong to a minority group. But `society' notwithstanding, minority groups have succeeded. How would it grab you if I said that the racist Great Society social programs, concentrated on the inner city slums, have made things tremendously worse for blacks (excuse the lack of curses for punctuation -- you're almost as good as James Joyce). How's that for a definition of society that I asked for? Too hard for you? Oh, now you've apologized. Well I apologize. Now we're even. Mutually apologetic destruction.