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Subject: Re: Re: What ever happened to Human Righ - (nf)
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Date: Fri, 9-Dec-83 03:33:11 EST
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Posted: Fri Dec  9 03:33:11 1983
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isrnix!wbb    Dec  9 00:04:00 1983

***** isrnix:net.flame / ut-sally!jsq /  9:41 am  Dec  7, 1983
It's truly amazing the sort of bigoted responses people have been
posting to jobe's flame.  Complaining about the words he used was
bad enough (this is *net.flame* folks!), but now we have somebody
saying he should not refer to blacks as "my people" because that
encourages discrimination.

Tell that to the Boston Irish, southern whites, Scots, Poles,
Puerto Ricans, Haitians, Cubans, or practically any Native
American group.  The experience of at least two of these
groups makes it clear that feelings of "my people" do *not*
necessarily cause discrimination and can in fact promote the
success of members of the group.  (I am, incidentally, a member
of two of the above groups.)  If you think people have to give up
their historical, ethnic, or racial identity to avoid
discrimination, why don't you also propose that all blacks dye
their skin?

It's not how members of the group see themselves that causes
discrimination, but how people *outside* the group see the *group*.














































-- 
John Quarterman, CS Dept., University of Texas, Austin, Texas
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