Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!grunwald From: grunwald@uiuccsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Flag Waver Speaks Out - (nf) Message-ID: <4420@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 10-Dec-83 22:28:56 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.4420 Posted: Sat Dec 10 22:28:56 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Dec-83 02:23:55 EST Lines: 18 #R:pyuxa:-41600:uiuccsb:7600074:000:890 uiuccsb!grunwald Dec 10 17:10:00 1983 One thing that the T.C. Wheeler person forgets to realise is that the use of symbols serves to minimize the amount of thought that one expends on an issue. If one can reduce it to a set of interactions among symbols, the issue can be dispensed with since you already have your views set in terms of what the valid interactions between symbols are. E.g. If declare that it is reasonable that someone read a socialist magizine like In These Times, and someone brands me as a commie gook, they dispense with having to be critical about the content of my assertion. This is the inherient problem behind symbols. This ability to classify and reduce is useful at times, but taken to an extreme, it is harmful. Political symbols are often very extreme. Also, I really dislike your referring to the person you are critizing as "the Genji person." I'm sure (s)he has a name. Why not use it.