Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site rocksvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!sam From: sam@rocksvax.UUCP (Sam Houston) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Breeding of Humans Message-ID: <1128@rocksvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Dec-83 10:54:31 EST Article-I.D.: rocksvax.1128 Posted: Fri Dec 16 10:54:31 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Dec-83 06:24:12 EST References: <331@hocda.UUCP>, <1123@rocksvax.UUCP> Organization: Xerox, Rochester, N.Y. Lines: 51 Has anyone out there in flame land followed the use of the nobel laureate sperm bank? In particular, I think I heard on the news the other day that one of the bank's customers now had a child showing precocious abilitys-- playing the violin at three, or something. For some strange reason this started me thinking: > We breed animals in a very controlled way for desired traits, why don't we do more of the same with ourselves? It (mating to produce desired characteristics) is certainly done in a fairly loose manner now--eg. two professionals (especially if they are of the opposite sex) in, say, physics are more likely to get together and produce children than one partner from academia and the other with plumbing skills. In this sense we are "selecting" for scientific abilities. > Why does our western culture have (generally) taboos against more direct selection; instead relying on family selection of the mate for economic, etc. reasons historically, and the more recent adoption of individual selection via the concept of romantic love. [we still do that, don't we? i've been married quite a while now, and may not be current] In the sense that morals/ethics are cultural adaptations that allow our species to survive, is there something morally wrong with a more quantified mate selection process? > Are there any given human traits that "should" be selected for or against? I've got a few: intelligence (several categories), low agression (in general), physical abilities (for good Monday night football), artistic abilities (several categories)---. > Personally, my own cultural bias causes me to look askance at anyone so *coldhearted* as to select a mate (or mates) based on his desires for a certain ability in the offspring; even more so to reject someone else (government, a computer program) telling me. Memories of the nazi breeding camps remain. > However, the scientist/engineer part of me that feels quite comfortable with the process of understanding and modifying natural processes to suit a desired end, says: "why not?". It seems for sure that some of us (at least on an individual basis) are already doing it. to bettter human eugenics :-) sam