Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site cae780.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!cae780!chuqui From: chuqui@cae780.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: good grammar Message-ID: <253@cae780.UUCP> Date: Fri, 23-Dec-83 18:20:17 EST Article-I.D.: cae780.253 Posted: Fri Dec 23 18:20:17 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Dec-83 00:43:25 EST References: <428@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: CAESystems, Inc. Sunnyvale Lines: 38 Another point to ponder: Most of the people on the net who have significant problems with the syntax and spelling of English have no problems with those same things in C, Lisp, Fortran, or any of a half dozen languages. When you think about it, it is much harder to write a properly structured and informative lecture in C (i.e. a program) than it is in English (i.e a letter) because the recipient is much less intelligent (a compiler vs. a person). MOST people who are bad at English spelling and grammar are that way because they are lazy and they haven't worked on their personal communication skills nearly as hard as they have their machine communication skills. There are exceptions of course, such as dyslectic people and others with learning disabilities, but I don't believe for a second that most programmers have those problems. You just have to look at the quality of the code and the quality of the documentation to see where the problem is. I don't claim to be perfect (or even good) with my English and writing, but I'm trying. I have very little (or no) patience with those who don't bother, because it tells me that they are more interested in talking to their machines than they are to me, and I find that rather insulting. Besides, from experience I have found that programmers who can speak and write well are much better employees overall than those who are great and hacking things together, but terrible at explaining what they did and how they did it. To the flamers: The point should not be chastisement, but assistance. Don't yell at people when they make a mistake, help them understand it so that they don't make it again! This is probably something that is more appropriate to mail as well (*hint hint*). To flamees: A dictionary is a start, but only a start (spell is a nice psuedo-person compiler as well). The only way to become a better writer and user of English is to USE it, and accept criticism with a positive viewpoint. Don't get defensive, get better! impro