Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hou3c.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!harpo!floyd!clyde!burl!hou3c!ka From: ka@hou3c.UUCP (Kenneth Almquist) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.followup Subject: Re: Stalin and slavery Message-ID: <139@hou3c.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Dec-83 17:54:31 EST Article-I.D.: hou3c.139 Posted: Wed Dec 14 17:54:31 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 16-Dec-83 03:05:08 EST References: <399@reed.UUCP>, <5535@mcvax.UUCP> <3401@utzoo.UUCP> <5551@mcvax.UUCP> <4381@umcp-cs.UUCP> <313@abnjh.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 27 Stalin's murders and American support of slavery are both in the past, but what is even more revelant is the countries' reaction to the conditions. The United States has repudiated slavery openly, and legally and constitutionally banned it, while the Soviet government has never repudiated Stalin's style of governing (through fear and violence), and continues to use it, though with a lower profile. Stalinism was publicly repudated by Khrushchev, shortly after Stalin's death. Describing Stalins's style of government as "governing through fear and violence" isn't saying much. The U. S. government governs though fear and violence. ("If you break the law we will send you to jail and possibly kill you.") The difference is that the Stalin executions were massive and unpredictable whereas today you really have to work on it to get executed in the Soviet Union or the United States. Blacks are still discriminated against in the United States, which suggests that the U. S. still practices slavery, "though with a lower profile." Of course the Stalin and Andropov regimes are similar in that they are both repressive. There is no free press, no guarenteed bill of rights, no freely elected government. But these are things which have never existed in Russia, so you could equally well compare Andropov with the Tzars. Kenneth Almquist