Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!mit-eddie!lkk From: lkk@mit-eddie.UUCP (Larry Kolodney) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.followup Subject: Re: Stalin and slavery Message-ID: <1075@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Dec-83 22:15:36 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1075 Posted: Tue Dec 20 22:15:36 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 22-Dec-83 00:22:26 EST References: <399@reed.UUCP>, <5535@mcvax.UUCP> <746@cbosgd.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 37 From Mark Horton: ___ > Dave claims that "the people" can make a difference in the United > States whereas they cannot in the Soviet Union. This is pretty much > true, but I don't believe that the Soviet government ignores public > opinion completely. The U. S. government is heavily influenced by PACs > which represent some of the people but certainly not all. I would be quite interested if you can come up with ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that the Soviet Union can be influenced by public opinion. My impression is that the Soviet government actively follows a policy of making sure that public opinion cannot be formed or measured, lest it reinforce in the public mind that the people want something different than what the government wants to provide. ___ In fact the SU does conduct opinion surveys although the results are not necessarily made public. Pravda and Isvestia recieve thousands of letters daily about a variety of non-ideological complaints, and these papers do serve as a public forum (within limits). The only reason that Khruschev gained power was due to public support of a sort. After Stalin's death, the party was headed by Malenkov. Khruschev lobbied within the party and was able to oust him, not through violence, but through majority suport within the party. Later, when the "anti-party" group in the poliburo tried to oust him, he appealed to the Central Committee (comprising a few hundred party leaders from around the country) and was retained. There may not be true democracy in the SU, but its not clear its any worse than say Mayor Daly's chicago in terms of responding to public sentiment. -- Larry Kolodney (The Devil's Advocate) (USE) ..decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!lkk (ARPA) lkk@mit-ml