Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site dual.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!dual!bill From: bill@dual.UUCP (Bill Kanawyer) Newsgroups: net.games.go Subject: Re: Re: Game records from the Nihon Kiin. Message-ID: <200@dual.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Dec-83 18:16:21 EST Article-I.D.: dual.200 Posted: Tue Dec 27 18:16:21 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Dec-83 00:38:47 EST References: <187@dual.UUCP>, <479@eosp1.UUCP> Organization: Dual Systems, Berkeley, CA Lines: 36 Mr. Keremath raises some good points in his follow up article. I agree that some need to be proposed that we all can live with. However I would like to point out that there are two different areas of interest (at least) in this news group. First there is the exchange of ideas, and the development, of computer go. The points raised deal mainly in how two machines can talk to each other and how a data base on go can be kept. It may very well take some time to hammer these ideas out. Try to get two people to agree about anything! Second there is the wish to play games, exchange lessons, post problems, etc. This form of exchange does not require as strict a format as the first. So, I would suggest the following: Let us agree on some format by which we can go ahead and play via email no matter how simple, for now. Meanwhile lets go ahead and exchange ideas on how to better structure go for a computer. Ideas??? As far as a program to maintain a go database goes... a Mr. C. H. Tsing (NDT Technology Labs, Lockheed Missiles & Space Co. Inc.) has written one under the FORTH language. It can be had via the Forth Interest Group (FIG). If I can find my copy I will post the basic structure of it. Suggest FORTH over Basic. I do wish to be able to gain insights into the game from other people. This can best be done by playing games. Remember, computer chess needed a master class (correct term?) player(s) input to reach its current level of skill. Any dan level or pros arround the net? Once again please comeback with any thoughts.... Bill Kanawyer Dual Systems, Berkeley Ca. {ucbvax,adm70,unisoft}!dual!bill