Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 11/4/83; site ihnss.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!ihnss!warren From: warren@ihnss.UUCP (Warren Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Unintentional creditors in business bankrupcies Message-ID: <1823@ihnss.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Dec-83 09:57:38 EST Article-I.D.: ihnss.1823 Posted: Fri Dec 9 09:57:38 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Dec-83 22:34:36 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 29 Twice now we have become unintentional and unwilling participants in a business bankrupcy. Once years ago when our landlord (a giant real estate company) declared bankrupcy and tied up our security deposit, and more recently when a mail order company declared bankrupcy after cashing a check but before sending the merchandise. In both cases we wound up as creditors, which was a surprise since we extended no credit to either of these companies. What happened strikes me as theft or fraud, but apparently is perfectly legal and can happen to anyone. I gather that in many areas, more recent laws now protect security deposits from such actions, but the mail order problem remains. In our case the money involved is minimal, however people who order expensive items by mail should be aware of the danger that if the supplier goes bankrupt, apparently they can take your money to pay other debts and leave you with nothing but paperwork. Since I do not intend to give up all mail order business, I would like to know what, if anything, can be done to prevent this from happening. If I walk into a store, pick out merchandise, pay for it, and leave, I am in no danger if the store goes bankrupt. I don't see why conducting the transaction by mail makes it any different. -- Warren Montgomery ihnss!warren IH x2494