Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 11/4/83; site ihnss.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!ihnp4!ihnss!warren From: warren@ihnss.UUCP (Warren Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: "Unintentional" creditors in business bankrupcies Message-ID: <1853@ihnss.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Dec-83 11:46:07 EST Article-I.D.: ihnss.1853 Posted: Wed Dec 21 11:46:07 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Dec-83 11:12:22 EST References: <568@dciem.UUCP> <2978@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 45 My original posting on this subject has generated some interesting discussion. I would like to contribute a couple of points. 1) In some business transactions, one side or the other extends credit, in the form of advance payment or reciept of goods or services before payment. This is typical commerce, and companies make allowances for bad accounts in their procedures. They get tax benefits for bad debts and in some cases insure against them. The credit extension is a conscious decision, and a factor in deciding to go ahead with a transaction. (Some companies will not deal with some suppliers because they are poor credit risks. In many consumer transactions, no credit is consciously extended. There is a simple exchange of cash for goods. The credit worthiness of the customer or the business doesn't figure in the transaction. My complaint is that somehow, just because the exchange took place by mail, my payment which was supposed to be immediately exchanged for merchandise was considered as extension of credit to the merchant. In my mind, any other use of that money (such as deposit in general account, use for payment of others) is really theft by the merchant. The law should allow for exchange of cash for merchandise with niether side becoming creditors. This ought to apply to the airplane purchaser mentioned in one of the followups as well, The purchaser in good faith exchanged cash for the airplane and presumably had no interest in extending credit to the merchant. If the sale was legal, I don't see why the law should make the purchaser responsible for the merchant's unpaid debts. Maybe the real problem is that it is too easy to declare bankrupcy and nobody seems to be responsible for the unpaid debt. Given that, however, I would think that the intention would be to limit the number of people at risk from bankrupcy. Again, thanks for the interesting news discussion. -- Warren Montgomery ihnss!warren IH x2494