Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site aat.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!akgua!sb1!mb2c!aat!kenr From: kenr@aat.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: ennui resolves USENET discussions Message-ID: <215@aat.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Dec-83 12:17:39 EST Article-I.D.: aat.215 Posted: Wed Dec 14 12:17:39 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Dec-83 01:11:30 EST Organization: Ann Arbor Terminals Lines: 39 Although I enjoyed debenedi's paper, I disagree with the conclusion. His USENET paper, if you'll remember, concludes with the thought that the net "is particularly well-suited for resolving conflicts among groups." This is undermined somewhat, as he continues: "One problem with USENET is that no one knows when a decision has been reached." I disagree with the first assertion because I believe the second. How well suited can USENET be for conflict resolution if nobody knows when a decision is reached? I don't believe that much is ever really resolved on the net. Certainly everyone gets a chance to speak, but a consensus is seldom if *ever* achieved; most discussions end because the point has become moot, or because enough participants feel that the argument is futile and thus become interested in something else. Newsgroup creation arguments frequently become moot, for example, because some news administrator somewhere creates the newsgroup after tiring of the discussion. Other topics die because newer, more interesting topics take their place. The life of "net.motss" is a prime example of both phenomena. Discussion raged for weeks about whether or not the newsgroup should be formed, then the newsgroup appeared as if by magic, along with a note that said words to the effect that "net.motss" was created, please discuss related topics there, stop cluttering this newsgroup. Within the new newsgroup, boors cast aspersions, and the rest of us either replied or watched. Eventually the discussion wound down; there hasn't been traffic in "net.motss" in weeks. There was no resolution. We just talked about something else. The only conclusion that I come to with respect to USENET is that we are all bored, and, ultimately, we don't really care what happens to a discussion if something more interesting pops up. That's the way I am, that's the way we all are. Now let's talk about something else. Later, Ken Rhodes decvax!cbosg!cbosgd!aat!kenr