Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.movies,net.politics,net.music Subject: Re: The Star-Spangled Banner Message-ID: <1513@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-Dec-83 15:35:32 EST Article-I.D.: utcsstat.1513 Posted: Sat Dec 3 15:35:32 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Dec-83 16:31:36 EST References: <143@houxk.UUCP>, <2820@utcsrgv.UUCP>, <1093@rocksvax.UUCP>, <843@cwruecmp.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 53 O Canada -- The first thing to remember is that Canadians *aren't* brought up on it. My generation has had both a flag and an anthem. Previous generations haven't. Before O Canada it was God Save the Queen. So any "Loyalty to the Flag" will not have very deep roots around here. Also we don't have flags in classrooms or classroom anthem singings... except in prparation for school concerts or soemthing. We still had to sing God Save the Queen about as often as O Canada. The Star Spangled Banner is a very difficult thing to sing. Anybody who can sing it *ought* to be getting a red glow inside -- just to accomplish the feat. O Canada is neither difficult, nor (in the first verse which is all that most people ever know anyway) very interesting. A few (10?) years ago they spruced up the anthem by replacing one of the repetitive "We Stand on Guard, We Stand on Guard" with "God Keep Our Land". This is official, but it hasn't gone over too well. Historically, dependance upon God has not been all that reliable. I think that a few extra "we stand on guard"s might help keeping Canada "glorious and free", though... patriotism is looked on as an American disease. it is not polite to draw attention to how wonderful you are, after all. In the apartment building I live in a new sign was errected beside the light switch "Be Patriotic -- Save energy!" I know three people (including myself) who laughed themselves silly when they saw it. However, there *is* real patriotism here, though you have to work hard to find it. I discovered that I was patriotic when it *really mattered* to me as a kid whether the Canadians beat the Russians in the Canada/USSR hockey challenge. At the time I remember wondering if I had some strange disease... Canadians also take pride in "not being Americans" which is a strange form of Patriotism. Despite this there is a strange ability on the part of Canadians to absorb American patriotism. thus I remember that after the Canadian athletes had been eliminated from the olympics in some competition, Canadians would root for the Americans. i still think that O Canada is primarily what they play to tell you that the hockey/football/baseball games has started. I have never felt the warmth that is talked about, except after the Canada USSR hockey challenge that i mentioned. I have not discussed this with other people, but I suspect that I am not very unusual in this respect. Thus American patriotism seems to be some sort of strange madness from my point of view. it is unfathomable -- but you do seem to get a lot of enjoyment out of it, don't you? There is always something to be said about that... Laura Creighton utzoo!utcsstat!laura