Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!ihnp4!houxm!mhuxl!eagle!allegra!cbf From: cbf@allegra.UUCP Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Music, real, discussion of Message-ID: <2094@allegra.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Dec-83 10:23:29 EST Article-I.D.: allegra.2094 Posted: Wed Dec 14 10:23:29 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 16-Dec-83 01:44:49 EST References: <188@astrovax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 66 O.K. A few personal thoughts. Concerning Recordings and Del Tredici's "Final Alice": Del Tredici is one of the "New Romantics" (it's not yet called neoromanticism), meaning that his music departs from the Eastern Academic Establishment's infatuation with "intellectually correct" dodecacophony [:-)] and other atonal abstractions. Consequently, his style is less forbidding than that of most contemporary composers. His "Alice" works, which have been compared favorably to late Strauss, are actually very appealing and don't require too much effort on the listener's part. The Solti recording of "Final Alice" is definitely worth investigating, if only because it's a rare instance of a major record company (Decca) endorsing a contemporary work immediately after its premiere. However, I've found that the extensive narration and the sustained lack of tonal variety throughout this one-hour (with cuts) work gets in the way of repeated listenings. Still, I cannot praise Barbara Hendricks' contribution to the proceedings highly enough. As usual, she is superb. She's one of the world's great lyric sopranos and one of my two favorite singers. Jessye Norman, my other fav, also sings soprano, but I prefer her awesomely opulent mezzo range. I just found out that the TWO of them will be singing Mahler's "Resurrection" under Leonard Bernstein (one of the great interpreters of that work) and the NYPO in January. I can't wait! Get a ticket if you can. Terminology and what to call "classical" music: I remember when I took my first music course, one of the first things our teacher did was to carefully define that term as "Traditional Western Art Music", and it has stuck with me since. So how about a net.music.twam? Real Art and post-1955 masterpieces: Let's put it this way. Mahler's music was ignored for a good forty years after his death, and now I can't imagine life without it. In good time, the true masterpieces will show themselves as such. Immortality is the name of the game. Off the top of my head, I would propose Benjamin Britten's "War Requiem" as a good candidate, but I'm not sure about the composition date. I also imagine that some of Olivier Messaien's output will survive -- his opera "Saint Francois d'Assises" had a grand premiere in Paris a couple of weeks ago and his "Quartet for the End of Time" is well established, but that was composed during WWII (in a concentration camp). As for which music is performed regularly, smaller-scale works, e.g. chamber works, tend to have more advocates than others. Music students in particular thrive on them. More Real Art and Schoenberg's "Verklaerte Nacht": I once decided to find out what the fuss was all about and invested in the Karajan recording (apparently the finest ever made) of that work. To my own suprise, I found myself responding to it, and I've even grown to, well, sort of like it...!? I won't flame, though. My feelings aren't that strong about it. Come to think of it, my feelings aren't that strong about much that was composed after Mahler. I'll let Jeff Winslow (sp?), our resident Schoenberg expert make a better case for that work. If anyone is interested by the way, the Karajan recording has just been re-released on the cheaper DG Signature label. Another great DG Signature is Abbado's Tchaikovsky's Fourth. The Great Music Quiz: If you haven't sent in your answers, it's probably too late by now. I'm posting the results, then the answers later today... Thanks to astrovax!tss for getting the ball rolling. -- "Yes, but is it art?" Charles B. Francois (decvax!allegra!cbf)