Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site proper.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!dual!proper!gam From: gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.nlang Subject: Re: Flame on net posters' English -- ENOUGH! Message-ID: <787@proper.UUCP> Date: Thu, 22-Dec-83 22:43:49 EST Article-I.D.: proper.787 Posted: Thu Dec 22 22:43:49 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Dec-83 01:11:05 EST References: <1241@pur-ee.UUCP> <179@dual.UUCP>, <631@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: Proper UNIX, San Leandro, CA Lines: 22 William Safire, a language columnist for the NY Times, wrote about this correcting of peoples' grammar, etc, as the "wiseguy problem": "Everyone who cares about the use of language is faced sooner or later with this problem: When the person you are talking [writing] to makes a mistake in grammar, or pronounces [or spells] a word mistakenly, do you interrupt with a correction? Or would such a correction be seen as a put-down, the action of a wiseguy? Or would failure to correct be taken as agreement with the mistake? "...Correcting a stranger's English is impolite at best, cruel at worst. It's being a wiseguy, who is the sort of linguistic show-off who has to tell you that 'wiseguy' and 'wisenheimer' were preceded by 'wiseacre,' derived from the Dutch word 'wijssegger,' or 'soothsayer.' As for the person taking pen [or keyboard] in hand at this moment to point out that Webster's New World Dictionary writes 'wiseguy' as two words -- you know what you are." [from his book "On Language"] [additions mine] 'Nuff said? Gordon Moffett (I care about the use of language, but not enough to offend people)