Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ariel.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!ariel!norm From: norm@ariel.UUCP (N.ANDREWS) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.philosophy Subject: Re: tale of the slave Message-ID: <532@ariel.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Dec-83 18:06:23 EST Article-I.D.: ariel.532 Posted: Mon Dec 19 18:06:23 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Dec-83 01:03:23 EST References: <4408@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T-ISL, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 22 Paul Torek recently submitted to this newsgroup an excerpt from Nozick's Anarchy, State & Utopia. In this excerpt, a slave who is subject to brutal abuse from his master undergoes a change in status (gradually) until he now is (only?) subject to brutal abuse from a majority of a voting population of 10,000 people. (The slave can vote with the same weight as the others). It would be interesting to see what conclusion or principle Nozick derives from all this. I regard democracy as the moral equivalent of slavery. The framers of the U.S. Constitution tried to prevent the slavery of a democracy by making this government a constitutional republic in which the power of government is constitutionally limited. Unfortunately, the Constitution's protection wasn't sufficiently iron-clad to prevent democratic injustices from being enacted into federal law. No political system will be immune to corruption or perversion if it isn't built on the solid foundation of a culture whose dominant outlook is reason, self-interest, and recognition that self-interest is opposed to seeking the unearned. Of course this statement can be interpreted to mean a lot of things, so rather than try to pin it down in this article, let me just indicate that I mean a culture based substantially on Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism. In such a culture, slavery wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance... --Norm Andrews, AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel, N.J. (ariel!norm)