Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Money not "wasted" on silos and space Message-ID: <1510@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-Dec-83 01:03:54 EST Article-I.D.: utcsstat.1510 Posted: Sat Dec 3 01:03:54 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Dec-83 11:03:44 EST References: <135@csd1.UUCP>, <536@dciem.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 39 Ah, but Martin, I *do* think that we have a perpetual motion machine. (so it looks like a Rube Goldberg machine :-) ). We also manage to cheat entropy a little bit. The other day, somebody offered me money to goo and look at his computer installation and tell him what was wrong with it. All that it required on my part was thinking. Now thinking is a rather neat thing. I do it all the time. All you have to do is feed me and keep me warm and I will go on thinking. Every so often, people will decide to throw money at me for doing what i would be doing even if they weren't paying me -- namely thinking. This is astonishing when you really think about it. The question is "what is real"? You really want your money to represent something if only "that I consider this valuable". So. We all need food. Up in this marvellous climate that you and I share ( :-) ) we all need a place to keep warm in at night so that we don't freeze. If we get sick, or in an accident, we need a doctor and perhaps some drugs. It is arguable that there are other psychological needs (such as the need to be loved) but you know far more about them than I do. All the rest are *wants* not *needs*. Now it strikes me as very strange to build a whole world based on wants. i want lots of things which I know I will never have. (To begin with, I would like to be 5'7"). In grasping something and saying "i want this" you actualy saying "i want what I expect this to be". Now as you see this works better when "what you see is what you get" but this may have nothing to do with the price of an object. Thus it costs me nothing to tell somebody that he needs another disk drive but that is still worth money -- so indeed it is his expectation which is really worth the money, not my service. I find this all very, very strange and hard to think about. but I still think that I just "got something for nothing". I am not sure whether it is the money that i got for nothing or whether it is the thoughts that i got for nothing, though... Laura Creighton utzoo!utcsstat!laura