Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbopal-1.9 BSD 4.2; site ucbopal.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!ucbopal!genji From: genji@ucbopal.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Star Spangled Banner Message-ID: <125@ucbopal.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Thu, 8-Dec-83 12:18:45 EST Article-I.D.: ucbopal.125 Posted: Thu Dec 8 12:18:45 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Dec-83 01:00:48 EST References: <1021@ucbcad.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of Calif., Berkeley CA USA Lines: 34 Here, for reference, is a portion of the letter which some folks found objectionable; first is part of the quote from the original letter about the Star Spangled Banner, then my comments: << ... United States' National Anthem. ... I automatically rose << to my feet upon hearing ... A warm feeling rushed through my << body ... intensely invigorating ... Patriotism, pride, and << fellowship were definately components of what I was feeling. I << was proud of my country and of the audience. I do not know << why. Spoken like a true patriot! Maybe you'll go off to war on the same unknowing emotional high. --Genji Now answers to critics: "If I am not for myself, who can be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I?" --Hillel The problem with patriotism is not the love of one's own country, but the exclusion of others. The dictionary definition may say nothing about exclusion but patriotism in practice does just that. And usually patriotism in practice also excludes significant portions of one's own country people from love. It's negative aspect is most visible, an ideological force against internal and external enemies. Patriotism could be considered virtue in the era of Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin, but today it's an anachronism, as is its social base, the nation-state. Of course, we should love our own country, the only home most of us have; but let's break out of nationalism and care for the whole world. Automatic patriotic emotional responses do make me think of people going blindly off to war. Instead of resonating with patriotic appeals during this period when the government desires support for military action, let's think before acting. R. Reagan seems bent on showing that it isn't only Democrat Presidents who can lead the USA into a major modern war. --Genji