Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbesvax.turner From: ucbesvax.turner@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Uses of fear - (nf) Message-ID: <1137@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Dec-83 00:45:50 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.1137 Posted: Sun Dec 25 00:45:50 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Dec-83 02:08:19 EST Sender: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 27 #R:mit-eddie:-106100:ucbesvax:7500066:000:1096 ucbesvax!turner Dec 18 13:58:00 1983 /***** ucbesvax:net.politics / mit-eddie!zrm / 2:43 am Dec 18, 1983*/ Indeed, if you are really curious as to how the average computer hacker might be treated in the Soviet Union, you might consider enrolling in one of the cultural or academic exchange programs that still exist. I am told that their popularity has declined and so it is much easier to get in. Cheers, Zig Good advice, if you can be *very* discreet. However, be advised that two friends of mine who have taken advantage of such programs carry a burden of guilt: during or after their stays, some of the people (students) they had befriended were incarcerated in mental hospitals. They were released after a week or so. But still, in view of Valeri Tarsis' accounts [1], those hospitals must be real "Cuckoo's Nests". My friends also report that things are, if anything, worse under Andropov. (They weren't in C.S., by the way.) --- Michael Turner (ucbvax!ucbesvax.turner) [1] "Ward 7", a novelization of this dissident's experiences of Kruschev's more "humane" post-Stalinist policies.