Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 11/4/83; site ihldt.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!houxm!ihnp4!ihldt!tmh From: tmh@ihldt.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: re:Stranger in a Strange Land Message-ID: <2127@ihldt.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Dec-83 11:16:06 EST Article-I.D.: ihldt.2127 Posted: Mon Dec 5 11:16:06 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Dec-83 23:48:48 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 30 I have given serious thought to this and it does in fact fit in with my beliefs as to the nature of the Universe. I feel that I am a conscious manifestation of God (as is every other living thing). I don't believe that God is either anthromorphic or sentient. I do believe that God is alive, omnipresent and all powerful (since I equate power with God). It has been a long time since I have read Stranger in a Strange land, but it seems to me to be mostly a condemnation, by Heinlein, of organized religion. There is the concept of Groking which is a nice and workable human interface and hedonism in religion (which is about all that would make me join one again). The most interesting thing I find about SiaSL is its close relation (in terms of expressing Heilein's thoughts about the Universe) to two other of Heinlein's books: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (political) and Starship Trooper (military). Each of the books has a character that seems to be Heinlein himself running around and the central character in each book ends up dead without having fulfilled the task he set out to do. The Science Fiction book which I feel comes closest expressing my own beliefs on the interface between God and man is the ending of Childhood's End. (Most of the book (as it pertains to God) is outside what I believe (esp. the fact that God can manifest himself, can communicate with living beings, and is destructive), but the joining of the children's souls with God describes my feeling as to what happens at death and I envision a similar event at the creation of life.) Cognito ergo sum, Tom Harris ihnp4!ihldt!tmh