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From: david@ssc-vax.UUCP (David Norris)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Vomiting on net.religion
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Date: Sun, 18-Dec-83 15:57:12 EST
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Posted: Sun Dec 18 15:57:12 1983
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	In response to Tim Moroney's article:

> I am going to assume that what he meant by the first question is "... would
> you accept his role as the greatest human being ever and as the savior of
> mankind?"  (If this isn't what you meant, I apologize, but encourage you to
> be less ambiguous in the future.)  The answer is no.  The reason is that
> Yahweh is a barbaric, hideous monster if the Judaic portion of the Bible is
> accurate, and that Christ is just as bad if the Christian portion is
> accurate.

	Tim, you are only proving my point.  What you happen to think of truth,
ANY truth, shouldn't affect the validity of the truth.  If I proved that a
hungry bengal tiger was trapped in the room with you, and that the only way to
appease it was to throw it a big steak, I would bet you would throw it a steak.
Your belief in the tiger's disposition is not going to affect how he feels 
about having you for lunch.  And anyway, how God responds to you is how you
respond to God.  He has offered love to you first.  It is YOUR choice to accept
His love or eternal damnation.  We are told that those in hell will curse God.
But it was their own choice, the final choice, the choice that they have been
making all of their lives: either "Thy will be done", or "My will be done".
At the end of all things, God will be the ultimate horror or irresistable love
and joy.  But it is a limited offer.  From the way you speak, Tim, it is
obvious where you stand.


> John has not seen fit to reply, despite the fact that he did get the
> article.

	I am going to pluck this sentence out of Tim's article and stop here.
Tim seems ready to condemn others for that which he is guilty of.  Whatever
happened to our morality debate?  The letters I have sent you, asking for
information?  As a Christian, I am truly sad for you.  But I cannot help but
say something that I know many other (useful) contributors are saying to
themselves: "Put up or shut up."  It is easy to for anyone to vomit out
articles condemning others.  It is not so easy to carry on logical discussions
for the benefit of a newsgroup.
	I apologise to those who I might of offended by using such a childish
saying.  But I think most of you will agree with me.

	-- David Norris
	-- uw-beaver!ssc-vax!david