Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbesvax.turner From: ucbesvax.turner@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Re: 1984 - (nf) Message-ID: <1025@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Dec-83 02:01:35 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.1025 Posted: Wed Dec 14 02:01:35 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Dec-83 02:45:57 EST Sender: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 20 #R:dartvax:-47600:ucbesvax:8400003:000:901 ucbesvax!turner Dec 7 03:59:00 1983 In anticipation of a flood of comments along the lines of "Well, here it is, (almost) 1984, and Orwell got it all wrong," I suggest a closer reading. A very subtle, almost hidden assumption is that there was a limited nuclear war in the late 50's, from which the world never quite recovered. We came quite close to that, and who's to say that, had there been such a war, we wouldn't all be living in Oceania, sending our netnews down the memory holes? As it is, he was dead on with his predictions about a tripolar system of superpowers, with periodically shifting alignments and constant low-level war in the global peripheries. I have a younger brother who doesn't remember TV news about how mainland China was one of our "enemies" in Vietnam. Since then, China has come over to "our" side. Now, it looks like they're slowly warming the USSR again. --- Michael Turner (ucbvax!ucbesvax.turner)