Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ubc-visi!mokhtar From: mokhtar@ubc-visi Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: shyness and love Message-ID: <563@ubc-visi.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Dec-83 21:29:23 EST Article-I.D.: ubc-visi.563 Posted: Tue Dec 13 21:29:23 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Dec-83 01:13:33 EST Lines: 40 i am a newcomer to net.singles so i apologize now for saying anything that may not belong in here, but i will do my best. i am a shy man. i used to be a very shy man. recently a woman made a remark on this newgroup about "some men specially shy ones who try too hard". i find this statement contradictory. in fact i don't think such men are shy at all. for me, the task of approaching even one friendly- looking woman used to be a `very hard` thing to do, let alone trying 'too hard'. i don't believe she knows what shy is. i don't need any tips on how to meet people, i want no sympathy and i am NOT bitter about it. not bitter because i was accepted by a very gentle, caring woman who made me very comfortable despite being shy (to my great surprise). she is six years older than me, she has a baby( i am not the father ), we have been seperated for 1.5 years now, we live thousands of miles apart from each other and i love her more than my life and if you think that is strange, i should add that i am proud because i am young and i think i and she have achieved together something that most people never do all their lives and that is strong and lasting love which only grows with time. i want to make a remark about what a librarian said on this newsgroup. if i am not mistaken, the purpose of making rules about how many times or how long a man should talk to you before asking you out is ti show that he cares (perhaps there are other things too but i am assuming that being caring is one of the important ones). i think you are unfair to shy men because you are practically "filtering" them out. there is no single 'test' to 'show' that he cares. if you believe that not ALL women care, is it not important to sometimes show that you care? After all, it is possible that a man who talks to you twice and hesitates the third time cares more than the one who keeps coming back. i am not trying to say that all shy is good. to me, being fair is important. social roles don't guarantee fairness. -- farzin P.S. i welcome all criticisms and comments and replies and questions.