Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!decwrl!daemon From: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: rape, sex roles & 'really single' Message-ID: <4620@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 15-Dec-83 13:48:12 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.4620 Posted: Thu Dec 15 13:48:12 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Dec-83 00:15:44 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Western Research Lab, Los Altos, CA Lines: 72 From: Ed Featherston HL01-1/P06 225-5241 Begin Forwarded Message: ------------------------------------------- Newsgroup : net.singles >From : STAR::MALIK Organization : Digital Equipment Corp. Subj: rape, sex roles & 'really single' Rape is an important issue but I don't believe it belongs in net.singles. Please find some other place for it. Responses to a number of recent issues -> I'm somewhat surprized to see that the issue of 'women initiating relationships' is an issue at all. Of course women should initiate relationships. And of course men should initiate relationships. If you like someone, talk to them! If you have doubts about this, ask yourself the following question - '*WHY* should only men do the initiating?' Can you think of a single, rational reason why both sexes shouldn't be free to approach whomever they wish? Seriously, can you? I agree with the comments about making friends verses 'desperately searching'. But I'd like to add a suggestion that I haven't seen here. Advertise the fact that you're 'looking'. Let your friends know (your closest friends probably already do know but consider letting others know (especially MOTOS friends)). Friends have friends and one might turn out to be the MOTAS of your dreams. As for you 'really single' people out there; If you're 'really single' and happy, then there's no problem, right? If you feel lonely, horny or whatever, then your lifestyle may need some changing. Sure, you can rail against the world & how difficult/unfair it is, but the odds are that's not going to make you feel a whole lot better (or change anything). So, what do you do? Painful as it may be, you will have to consider changing your behavior. Stop hiding in the machine room. In whatever way you can manage, try being more social. Invite 3 or 4 people out to dinner after work/class. Ideally, both men & women. Make some popcorn and invite people over to watch a TV movie (or rent a VCR for the weekend). Keep it simple & informal so that people will be more likely to accept. Anything to break your routine (which obviously isn't working) and establish pleasant social relations. Do you think you're no good at this? Well, how are you going to get good at it unless you practice? You're not going to figure out how to deal with people by sitting in your room thinking about it. Or maybe you find such simple get-togethers boring. Well, let's be honest - sometimes, they are. But other times, you meet new people with common interests, resources you don't have or just plain nice people. It's worth the risk/effort to get involved. Good luck. ,Karl Mail address : ...decvax!decwrl!rhea!star!malik ------------------------------------------- End Forwarded Message