Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!harpo!eagle!allegra!karn From: karn@allegra.UUCP (Phil Karn) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: GEO vs lunar delta-vees Message-ID: <2132@allegra.UUCP> Date: Thu, 22-Dec-83 00:18:20 EST Article-I.D.: allegra.2132 Posted: Thu Dec 22 00:18:20 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Dec-83 01:49:43 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 31 Someone mentioned the relative delta-vee requirements needed to get to geostationary orbit as compared to to the moon. I did some research and calculations to get some real numbers. Apollo 11 (a representative moon trip) started with a 192 x 190.6 km parking orbit. Trans-lunar injection required 3182 m/sec from the S-IVB, while lunar orbit insertion required only 889.2 m/sec. However, landing required 2,065 m/sec and liftoff 1,850; you can see the advantage of the separate LM approach. The return to earth required 999.4 m/sec. Here's the numbers for a typical geostationary satellite launch from the shuttle. Assume a 28.5 deg inclination 300 x 300 km parking orbit. The PAM (payload assist module) perigee kick motor produces about 2579.7 m/sec to put the spacecraft into a 23.5 deg elliptical transfer orbit. About 170 m/sec of this burn is used to reduce the inclination by about 5 degrees. (I don't know why they do this, it should be more efficient to change the plane out at apogee.) At one of the following apogees, the kick motor on the satellite itself produces 1879 m/sec. Most of this circularizes the orbit at geostationary altitude, while 231.6 m/sec goes toward making the inclination zero. Now when comparing these figures you have to take into account the different initial parking orbits, but this is enough to give the general idea. Note the big difference, though, between getting to lunar orbit and getting to the lunar surface. 192 km LEO to lunar orbit: 4071.2 m/sec 192 km LEO to lunar surface: 6136.2 m/sec 300 km LEO to GEO: 4458.7 m/sec Phil