Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!WATERMAN%USC-ECL@SRI-NIC From: WATERMAN%USC-ECL%SRI-NIC@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.space Subject: 'von-neumann probes' and clarke's sequel to 2001 Message-ID: <14837@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Dec-83 13:12:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.14837 Posted: Wed Dec 21 13:12:00 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Dec-83 10:45:06 EST Lines: 14 Some time ago, i read 2010, clarke's sequel to 2001. He uses the 'von-neumann-probe' idea as the denoument for the odyssey. I thought that his 2010 was a base and anachronistic trivialization almost as rank as the first star-dreck film where the great,exalted mystery of the universe is reduced to an andy wharhol soup-can! Anyway, Clarke goes on and on about these g.d. 'von-neumann' probes as the meaning of the obelisks etc. and he makes all kinds of anachronistic use of terms like 'teselation automata' etc. jeeeeezuuuuuz hhhhhhh chiiiiirrrriiiist ! It sounded like going into the 'science section' of a used bookstore and choking on the dust of some dusty tome describing advanced buggy-whip-technology. Probably any 'really' advanced stage of space-time-differentiation has already dispensed with the explicit use of 'technology' (the 2001 movie handled that well).... ...flame out of fuel.... -------