Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!dietz%usc-cse%USC-ECL@SRI-NIC From: dietz%usc-cse%USC-ECL%SRI-NIC@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.space Subject: GEO vs lunar delta-vees Message-ID: <14926@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Dec-83 13:41:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.14926 Posted: Mon Dec 26 13:41:00 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Dec-83 01:04:35 EST Lines: 31 Of course I meant going to lunar orbit, not to the lunar surface. One figure you didn't mention is the delta-vee for returning from GEO. Retrofire to put you into an atmosphere skimming orbit for aerobraking will take about as much delta-vee as the orbit circularization burn (maybe a little more). Perhaps a better (albeit more time consuming) maneuver would be to boost into an elongated orbit that passed near the moon, which would then put the vehicle onto an earth-intersecting orbit. I read somewhere that someone (Krafft Ehricke?) has proposed landing payloads on the moon by sliding them on a flat strip of lunar soil (sifted to remove rocks). Energy would be dissipated by heating and accelerating the loose sand-like material, which would be smoothed over before the next landing. Orbital velocity at the lunar surface is around 1650 m/sec, so this sounds semi-plausible. Deceleration at 10 gee's would mean a strip 14 km long. A more refined scheme could use a solid aluminum strip for magnetic flight. The incoming vehicle would have magnets for repulsive magnetic levitation. The vehicle could be decelerated by eddy currents in the strip, by coils in the strip (which could deliver usable power to a launch system) or by shooting gas derived from lunar soil (oxygen or argon) at the front of the vehicle. After being decelerated to less than 100 m/sec the vehicle would use wheels. Such a scheme could also make rocket lift-off from the lunar surface more efficient by eliminating the need for the rocket to support the mass of the vehicle against lunar gravity -- all thrust would go into increasing the orbital velocity of the vehicle. Of course, the mass of the magnets would probably negate any advantage gained.