Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!peterr From: peterr@utcsrgv.UUCP (Peter Rowley) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.tv.da Subject: Re: Re: High-Frontier, What Scientists Can Do Message-ID: <2889@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Dec-83 14:45:33 EST Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.2889 Posted: Sun Dec 4 14:45:33 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Dec-83 15:40:33 EST Organization: CSRG, University of Toronto Lines: 38 People who use phrases like "fools" and "utter and total nonsense" should be very careful to read that which they object to. Had Mr. Spencer done so and read "High Frontier, What Scientists Can Do" carefully, he would have seen TWO resource-oriented objections to the program (he picked the minor one to comment on) and he wouldn't have submitted his rather myopic response. Consider: - the monetary cost I agree that planetary research funding is largely indepen- dent of defence spending. But this is *not* a major point. - the human resources costs high-frontier research programs will take large number of highly skilled scientists that would otherwise work on other scientific pursuits. There would be an INEVITABLE drain on other programs, a drain not subject to the whims of appropriations as you can't create scientific manpower instantly from higher taxes. Of course, pro-science organizations are bound to decry the money spent on it also, in order to increase the chances that they will get money for their own interests-- that is what special interest groups do. But from a more neutral viewpoint, one sees that the high-frontier program, apart from being a blatant provocation (How would you like it if the USSR built space-based lasers to negate the US strategic force?), will inevitably consume a good deal of scientific manpower, a resource that is claimed to be in short supply (and NOT something that can be given back to taxpayers or used to reduce the deficit). It is time that we realized that in terms of nuclear arms, the technology is the problem and not the solution. We have weapons too hot to handle and they have to be controlled. The answer is not to build more powerful weapons but to attempt to solve the social problems that created the need for those weapons. Would that Reagan had a "let's have a Manhattan project" attitude to diplomatic pursuits (as can be done, witness the Camp David agreements, imperfect as they are). peter rowley, University of Toronto Department of C.S., Ontario Canada M5S 1A4 {cornell,watmath,ihnp4,floyd,allegra,ubc-vision,uw-beaver}!utcsrgv!peterr {cwruecmp,duke,linus,decvax,research}!utzoo!utcsrgv!peterr