Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!norman From: norman@decvax.UUCP (Norman Wilson) Newsgroups: net.usenix Subject: Re: UniForum, etc. Message-ID: <305@decvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Dec-83 04:05:59 EST Article-I.D.: decvax.305 Posted: Fri Dec 9 04:05:59 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Dec-83 02:30:59 EST References: <674@grkermit.UUCP> Organization: Caltech High Energy Physics Group Lines: 45 Having also had the audacity to circle time-conflicting sessions, I too have now had the honour of being rung up by a UniForum person and informed that I'm not allowed to do so. I spent some time arguing with the (rather patient) person on the other end, and was told the same shocking tales of tickets for specific sessions, no walking between sessions in the middle, no standees, &c. I was also given the following address to which complaints should allegedly be sent: John Dobberton Suite 205 2400 East Devon Ave. Des Plaines, IL 60018 All but the name is the same as the address to which you're meant to send your registration form. Presumably Dobberton is the appropriate managerial person in the Professional Exposition Management Company of Chicago (PEMCO), who are, according to the glossy brochure, the folks hired to manage the show. It is interesting that I was referred to him, not to anyone in either of the UNIX organizations sponsoring the conference. The way meeting rooms are being handled is clearly quite inappropriate to a technical conference such as USENIX is meant to be; it seems almost designed to stifle the off-line discussions and informality which have made past conferences so useful! If what I've seen so far is a fair sample of PEMCO's intended management, I'm not sure UniForum is worth the week (and the large chunk of my skimpy academic travel budget) I'll have to invest. Before giving up on it entirely, though, I'd be interested to know if this is simply the way PEMCO think they're meant to do all conferences (perhaps being more accustomed to vacuum-cleaner sales conventions?). Could it be that a firm word from whoever in /usr/group and/or USENIX hired them would alleviate some of the fascism? I find it hard to believe that either of the UNIX organizations intend to treat their members like kindergarteners, or to destroy the informal atmosphere which has been such an important part of all USENIX conferences (and DECUS symposia) I've attended. If appropriate officers of /usr/group or USENIX are out there, have you any comments? Norman Wilson Caltech High Energy Physics group {ucbvax|ihnp4|decvax}!cithep!norman